Samuelsen: MSU's "Obsession" with chUMps Must Stop

Jamie Samuelsen's blog: Spartans should rise above petty obsession with U-M

Here is my reader comment post to the free press blog article:

DUMP the chUMps and Spartan Resource
It's more than the fans. The media is constantly asking MSU coaches and players about Michigan. Coach Dantonio stands there at the Big Ten media days ready to answer media questions about the Spartans and he gets a wave of questions about Michigan's success last year, about what he thinks of Michigan's recruiting success, about the BCS selecting Michigan, etc. The pre-season rankings come out and the question to MSU players and coaches are all about Michigan. Similar questions are not asked of Michigan staff and players. No wonder he gets pissed. It makes it look HE IS THE ONE wanting to talk about Michigan. He can't answer the question to everyone's satisfaction so being asked is a no win deal. A perfect example of type of questions Dantonio fields is this: Last year, the media asked the fans and even coach Dantonio if he would "root for Michigan" in a game that MSU did not require a Michigan win to finish atop the division. Lets see this headline instead: "Will Brady Hoke Root for MSU this Saturday?" http://spartanresource.blogspot.com/2011/11/will-brady-hoke-root-for-msu_16.html - The truth is, generally speaking, what's bad for Michigan is good for MSU. That's just the truth. When "they" lose, it is good for"us". That will never change. It shouldn't change. That is part of the fun. Besides, Michigan is not who they say they are. The image they project and people buy into is a false one, so every loss, every cop story, the current NCAA sanction (which have been conveniently swept under the rug as if they never happened), every mis-step that proves that there no such thing as "The Michigan Difference" is good, because the truth is good and people need to know the truth. I don't disrespect what they have accomplished - which is a lot (more than the Spartans), it's just that the image of what they have accomplished is far greater than the reality and that is a huge source for all the "hate". http://spartanresource.blogspot.com/p/dump-chumps.html

Go Green - Drive for five!

Here is the Blog Post

Jamie Samuelsen, co-host of the “Jamie and Wojo” show at 6 p.m. weekdays on WXYT-FM (97.1), blogs for freep.com. His opinions do not necessarily reflect those of the Detroit Free Press nor its writers. You can reach him at jamsam22@gmail.com, follow him on Twitter@jamiesamuelsen and read more of his opinions atfreep.com/jamie.

How big of a deal is the Michigan State-Michigan Twitter situation that popped up last weekend? How should Mark Dantonio handle it?

The Michigan-Michigan State rivalry is nastier than it’s ever been. There’s no debate about that. If you haven’t been paying attention for the last four years, let me bring you up to speed.

1) Michigan can’t stand the fact that Michigan State has passed them in football.

2) Michigan State fans can’t stand the fact that Michigan won’t admit the fact that Michigan State has passed them in football.

And that pretty much sums it up. Oh sure, there have been some other flare-ups along the way. It didn’t help that Michigan lost to MSU last season, didn’t win its division, and yet earned a berth to a BCS bowl. And it didn’t help that Michigan won the last two recruiting battles, causing the Old Blues to proclaim that MSU’s brief run of dominance was soon coming to an end, even though nothing has happened on the field to underscore that point.

Michigan State is on top. Michigan is looking up at the Spartans. That’s a fact.

Now, Michigan State needs to start acting like it. Obsessing about Michigan doesn’t help the cause. Trying to take away from some of the things Michigan has done doesn’t help the cause. And gloating about an ugly Michigan loss on Twitter definitely doesn’t help the cause. In fact, it makes Michigan State look cheap. It makes them look less than they are. If you’re on top and you’re looking down, why should you care what one of the teams under you is doing?

But they do. At least some of them do.

Denicos Allen tweeted about Denard Robinson — “Is this guy really a QB I’ll say my mans (walk-on Tommy Vento) is a better QB lol.”

Safety Kyle Artinian jumped on the Denard train as well — “DENARD IS SOOOO BAD! And it makes me feel so good.”

Same for Jamal Lyles — “I can play quarterback for the school in blue. (Le’Veon Bell) for heisman > the other guy in the great state of michigan."

That doesn’t speak for the whole team or the whole school. It certainly doesn’t speak for head coach Mark Dantonio, who angrily addressed the issue Tuesday at his weekly press conference. Some of the tweets were taken down. And I’m sure that some Michigan players have gone to Twitter over the years. In fact let’s not forget that it was Mike Hart’s infamous “little brother” comment that ignited this rivalry to the level it’s at today. If Hart can talk down to a rival, Michigan State is entitled to do the same.

But they shouldn’t. It’s unnecessary.

But more than that, it simply fuels the idea that Michigan State is so obsessed with Michigan that they can’t see straight. The Spartans scored a nice win over nationally ranked Boise State on Friday night. Why should it matter what Michigan is doing on Saturday night? The two programs are rivals, and they always will be. But in the course of any rivalry, one school will rise up and another will fall. Michigan State has risen up. And this season should be a continuation of that trend. The Spartans have done the hard part in getting to this level.

Now comes the easy part — acting like it.

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  DUMP the chUMps and Spartan Resource
  It's more than the fans. The media is constantly asking MSU coaches and players about Michigan. Coach Dantonio stands there at the Big Ten media days ready to answer media questions about the Spartans and he gets a wave of questions about Michigan's success last year, about what he thinks of Michigan's recruiting success, about the BCS selecting Michigan, etc. The pre-season rankings come out and the question to MSU players and coaches are all about Michigan. Similar questions are not asked of Michigan staff and players. No wonder he gets pissed. It makes it look HE IS THE ONE wanting to talk about Michigan. He can't answer the question to everyone's satisfaction so being asked is a no win deal. A perfect example of type of questions Dantonio fields is this: Last year, the media asked the fans and even coach Dantonio if he would...See more
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  John Corcoran
  The 40 year thing is true, however, I grew up in the 60's...Duffy...Bubba...Bump...and when I was a kid the UM game was like playing Indiana now...an instant win...so I was jaded. Duffy lost his mojo...Bo came along and boom...40 years...I get it. The recruiting thing? Could care less...that's fan jumbo jive...I've heard it till my head hurts how "Michigan won the recruiting war"... OK...prove it...enough with winning where it matters not-in the papers or internet sites. The Bama game was a classic example of delusional M fans who want so desperately to be in the conversation because...well...you know..they DESERVE to be in the conversation... Humility is a wonderful thing...:)
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  Woody Stover · University of Michigan
  You are on a roll Johnny!
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  Matt Phillips · Eastern Michigan University
  I understand that winning the recruiting battle might not end
  up with UM having better players in a few years, i just think
  that as long as you're going to use the word delusional you
  could see how that it would also apply to MSU fans who are
  trying to pretend that even with having the most successful
  coach they have had since Duffy (or at least one that you
  were able to hold on to, Saban having bolted for greener pastures)
  and even after he put together 11 win seasons back to back for
  the first time EVER in the MSU history that you're not concerned
  that he was badly out-recruited by Hoke. I think another example
  of delusional is thinking that beating UM 4 years in a row means
  that you have 40 years of mediocrity well behind you. Did anyone
  on your end learn humility when UM beat MSU 6 years in a row
  prior to their 4 year strea...See more
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  Tim Bolek · Top commenter
  Freep needs to rise above obsession of beating a non-story to death. Kids tweets? 3 days? What did the rest of the world say about DRobs performance? Why are so many MI fans obsessed with only MSU tweets?
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  Scott Long · Top commenter
  It's what the media does.
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  Jim Grondin · · Top commenter · University of Michigan
  Little Bro continues to act like little bro... no class.
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  Adam C · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Are we still talking about this?
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  John Corcoran
  A great Michigan Fan and friend of mine once told me years ago, "You (MSU FAN) guys need to start loving yourselves more than you hate Michigan..." I laughed when he told me that but I think he's correct. MSU Fans, which I am one, need to stop worrying about UM. What is so much fun now is that the future looks like both schools will be tough, competitive and the rivalry actually will be special vs. the butt-kicking we received through the Bo/Mo and Lloyd years. Both schools have much to be proud of and great coaches! The way I look at it now is that both schools will win their share between each other. Obviously, going down to A2 and beating them a 5th time would be sweet...but I promise you M is going to get better and better. One more thing, if you put a gun to Brady's head he'd have to tell you that he is ready for life without Denard as his QB. Great kid. Great athlete but he's not the QB that Brady wants for his program... He inherited Denard from MSU's best buddy, Rich Rod :) I've watched now for 4 years and the kid has issues when it comes to the forward pass...no question!
  
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  Matt Phillips · Eastern Michigan University
  I am a UM fan and I would have no problem with MSU staying
  at the level they are now, it would be great to have an in-state
  rivalry where both teams are usually nationally rated, similar to
  Auburn-Alabama. UM pretty much owned MSU for 40 years, it
  was going to turn around sooner or later. Hoke has won the
  recruiting wars his first 2 years as UM's coach, and i think we'll
  see the results in a few years. I also think Dantonio will continue
  to be successful, so either school having a long winning streak
  against the other probably won't happen.
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  Brian Durocher · Top commenter
  Since I've been very critical abut MSU fans who seem irrational and subject to all the issues raised in the article, I want to now be complimentary of you and this very rational and objective post. Well done. I wish more spartan fans like you commented here.
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  Ted Godlewski
  I'll have to respectfully disagree. I'm a Michigan State alum and many of my friends are Spartans as well and quite honestly I don't see the supposed UM obsession everybody here mentions. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy squashing UM in football every year, but beyond that I mostly don't care. I don't think it's fair to broadly paint an inaccurate description of an entire fan base. It seems to me the media more perpetuates this stereotype than it actually exists.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  Don't lie to yourself Ted, you know darn well that Michigan is the most important game on your schedule every cotton picken year period end of story. You are totally obsessed with Michigan. Another thing, every time Michigan loses a game the msu fan base rejoices. Now, that is obsession.
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  John Corcoran
  Aww come on Ted...you know as much as any of us...this interplay is fun...entertaining...and passionate. I'm not broadly painting...if you read between the lines this is all about a gentle poke at the entire situation...the media...the fans on both sides and even those such as you and apparently many others who "don't care too much" about the whole "UM thing..." Good on ya buddy...the idea that you can stand apart from the fray and not let it bother you is either a credit to your calm demeanor or possible a really good yoga class...meditation...or pharmacy...(I'm joking here!)
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  Jeff Lutostanski · Top commenter
  John, its nice to see a State fan with some sense of reality, dont get me wrong some Michigan fans can use a little as well. Myself being a Wolverine fan I know Rich-Rod set the program back as Dantonio made State a better team and your spot on as far as Denard goes with him being a great athlete but not the kind of quarterback that Hoke wants for his program, I am looking forward to Shane Morris taking over in the near future and Michigan will get better over the next few season once Hoke starts getting his recruits rolling along, a coach cant change a team with one or two recruiting classes, Hoke also did a great job with the players he inherited. It should be intresting on October 20 with the winner probably in the drivers seat to go to the Big Ten Championship game then again Nebraska will also have a say so I am sure...
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  John Corcoran
  Hey, UM is "THE BRAND"...can't deny it. MSU is always climbing the mountain. Brady is a good coach and seems like even a better person. If I were an M fan I'd only wish that Bill Martin had made the phone call to Hoke over RR...the program would be right where it wants to be. As for my beloved Spartans? They'll be fine under what can only be deemed a "REAL PROGRAM" for the first time in....well...maybe since Duffy? Perles has some success but those were "dirty days" in my view...steroids and holding the University hostage for Pro jobs and power soured me on George...who I like, but he was selfish then. Dantonio will keep it competitive and that's a good thing for everyone! Just like the UM hoop team...it's more fun when they are worth a damn...more fun to beat'm too...:)
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  Dave Edney · · Top commenter · West Olive, Michigan
  I'm a die hard Wolverine fan, but this story does nothing but throw gas on the fire. LOL! I could care less what Sparty fans think of us. I'm looking forward to the next several years with hopefully a series where each game comes down to the wire. Not Michigan killing MSU each year, and likewise, MSU beating Michigan down each year. I think this is gonna be a fun rivalry to be a part of going forward. But again, I'm not going to worry about the scUM comments. I get a kick out of them. GO BLUE!
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  Loren Vanportfleet · Trufant, Michigan
  Good call Dave. This rivalry is good for College Athletics. Snide remarks do not belong in the rivalry.
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  Don Rabideau Jr · Works at Atlas EPS
  i've said it before, and i'll probably say it again... Michigan State's biggest rival is U of M, but U of M's biggest rival isn't Michigan State. That is never going to change.
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  Dave Edney · · Top commenter · West Olive, Michigan
  Exactly. Let it be settled on the field. My family is split three on each side of the rivalry. Makes for some awesome family get togethers!
  
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  Geoff Etnyre · Michigan State University
  Please, more self-righteous, santimonius palaver. Perhaps it's Samuelsen who needs to rise above pettiness, a word which pretty much explains this entire column. A couple of college kids learned a little lesson. This sounds more like an ax to grind against the Green and White than anything else. Does he really think Spartans stay up nights because of what Michigan may think of us? That's the great thing about four straight wins working on five. They pretty much speak for themselves.
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  Chris Korreck · Kent City, Michigan
  Actually yes, all the msu fans I know are constantly comparing what they do and Michigan does. This article is actually spot on I'd say.
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  George Mccreedy · Top commenter · Redford Union High School
  Hey Geoff, your post underscores perfectly what the article said: MSU is Michigan's little brother and always will be. Lots of jealousy there, obviously. Man, you are REALLY gonna start crying when Michigan CONTINUES to spank MSU in basketball too.
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  Brian Durocher · Top commenter
  Way to go Geoff--confirm those spartan fan stereotypes. A complete inability to be objective, among others.
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  Bill Cari · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Sorry, George, but that last part was a reach...and if being a little brother means that we now own you, then so be it.
  
  I think there is an incredible amount of insecurity on the part of UM fans that they might not be the big brother they have imagined.
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  Geoff Etnyre · Michigan State University
  Brian Durocher Pretty easy to see who's obsessed judging from all these posts. ;-)
  
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  Brady Lefere · Top commenter · Tampa, Florida
  They spanked us in basketball? Did you watch the game last year at the Breslin Center. See, it's UM fans like yourself that drive MSU fans to be obsessed. I have never seen such a rivalry contain so many cry babies. I'm a Spartan till I die, but I refuse to partake in this non-sense. October 20th will backup my views. End of story.
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  Dave Durocher · Research Chemist at BASF
  "Sparty tears taste like Sugar" and "Little Brother" prove it all for me. Their BIGGEST moment since 1997 and they are focused on Sparty. Yeah, Jamie. MSU needs to stop the obsession? No, the blue wall needs to be totally taken down.
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  Dave Kirkpatrick · Top commenter · Northville, Michigan
  Yawn. Four players tweeted stupid comments, and their Coach chewed them out.
  
  How about Samuelson yapping instead about how EIGHT UM football players have been arrested just since January 2012, and how 7 of them are still on the team? That seems a lot more news-worthy to me.
  
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  Scott Long · Top commenter
  Yes Dave, because we all know the freep hasn't covered any of that.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  There are certain things in life like death and taxes. Another certainty in life msu will ALWAYS be obsessed with Michigan and measuring themselves against Michigan. Mark Dantonio said it himself, "Michigan is the measuring stick" I also take offense to this article stating Msu is on top? On top of what? Msu squeaked by a depleted Boise St team and Michigan got clobbered by the defending National Champs. So what does that prove? Nothing.
  
  I will go on record right now and say msu's 4 game winnig streak is over period end of story. I guarantee Michigan will beat msu on Oct 20th. So go ahead spartan fans, brag all you want, but come Oct 20th, your sparties are going down and will be put back in their rightful place in this state, behind Michigan. I also am looking forward to the spartans losing at home to ND and Yes th...See more
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  John Corcoran
  Damn, I want to party with Bob...! Way to take this stuff seriously Bob... My advice? Breath slowly... So what if Michigan is the "measuring stick"? Really? So Mark put mighty UM as the measuring stick for MSU... That's not anything more than telling it like it is. The illustrious past of UM is without question something to measure up to. Anyone with an eye on history can agree with that. It is interesting however, that since Mark DID make it a measuring stick ya'll haven't had too much success. Instead of living in the past you may want to take a more pragmatic view and appreciate the fact that MSU is a much better/tougher/more formidable foe than it has been... So again...take a big deep breath...relax...it'll all be fine...!
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  Michelle Martin · NA Field Marketing Manager at CallidusCloud
  Hi Bob! First of all let me congratulate you on having access to a computer! Obviously a big step for you. I'd also like to personally thank you for being the most literal example of the oh-so average U of M tool. I mean, I can try to describe it...but it's so much more accurate when there's a living breathing example to point to! I just want to be clear, I don't hate you for beating us in football, lots of teams have done that! I am sad for you, like the kind of sad I feel when I pass someone trying to get me adopt a puppy. I am sad for you because of who you are, right down to your gooey little desperate-for-belonging core. And, win or lose, you're still going to be you. Which is really...sad. Have a great day!
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  William Koppelman · Top commenter · Blissfield, Michigan
  Michelle Martin don't you have a couch to burn instead of turning your nose up at us with arrogance like we used to do?
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  Michelle Martin · NA Field Marketing Manager at CallidusCloud
  Hey there, Blissfielder! I went to high school in Adrian so we're practically neighbors and best friends. As for the couch burning, nah, those glory days are behind me. Although sometimes I'll torch an arm chair or a side table just to channel my rage through fire, just as I learned from the Spartan forefathers before me. (Space is limited here in Manhattan.) But kudos for the couch burning reference! You picked the easiest and most obvious insult, but, as a Spartan and as an American, I respect your right to have a complete lack of creativity. As for arrogance, that's such a big word. (Although Bob could probably look it up online for you.) I would stick to the ones you understand. In return, I'll stick to what I do best: canvasing Laz-E-Boy outlets for my next backyard bonfire. Smell ya later you crazy Wolverine you! :)
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  Brady Lefere · Top commenter · Tampa, Florida
  Another UM fan that runs his mouth.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  What's a matter Michelle? did I hurt your whittle feelings with my post? You are also a perfect example of the msu fan base that resorts to name calling and throwing insults at people when you can't win the argument. Msu fans like to use the word scum when referring to Michigan or walmart wolverines when referring to the fan base. I bet you attended msu right Michelle?
  
  Nothing wrong in supporting your school and to be a fan of that school but it belittle's you when you resort to insults like calling me the average Uof M tool. I also don't get the desperate-for-belonging core remark. Reality is the spartans have a losing record to Michigan period. 67-32-5 and soon to be 68-32-5. Good day.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  No Brady, just stating the facts and those facts are very uncompfortable for msu fans. Msu will Always be Michigan's little brother in football and always in Michigan's shadow.
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  John Corcoran
  Is there a prozac in the room???? First...Michelle...I gotta agree a little with Holland Bob in this regard... When we get into these discussions those old "you suck, no YOU suck" moments really need to be toned down. And Bob...? Seriously my boy, you need to calm down on the whole "little brother", "we'll always be better..." Blah, blah, blah... It's really pretty simple kids. The times are a changing. MSU is viable. Michigan is going to get back because they have an amazing edge/culture that only a handful of schools around the country have... USC, OK, TX, BAMA, FLORIDA, FL ST., Ohio State... These schools along with M have a resounding edge and not to admit that is...well...just numbingly absurd. So you banter about winning recruiting wars and how "the record speaks for itself..." And on, and on and on... The reality Mr. Bob is that MSU is competing like no other time in their history on the football field. And Michelle...? Love your passion but if you are living in NYC then you are way too smart I'm assuming to be getting in the mud-filled ditch...ain't worth it kid...:)
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  Dave Durocher · Research Chemist at BASF
  Used to? Please.....
  
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  Michelle Martin · NA Field Marketing Manager at CallidusCloud
  Hey everybody! Truth is: I'm working from home, distracted and cannot resist participating in such high comedy. So Bob. Bobby. Can I call you Bobby? Let me just say that your internet skills are already so stellar! I’ll bet you’re over there Googling all sorts of things: Spartan statistics, Wolverine statistics, how to win with the ladies…the interweb is truly an amazing place! Are we arguing? Am I trying to win? My bad, I didn’t realize; probably because my arguments usually end with me throwing household objects across the room. (Though not my miniature Sparty statue for IT IS SACRED.) I sense the root problem here is that you’re hard of hearing. That seems to be the only logical explanation for why you keep repeating yourself! Turn that hearing aid up a notch Bobby boy because we’re reading you loud and clear! We get that Mic...See more
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  Wow Michelle, your intelligence is simply mind boggling. I am a Michigan fan win or lose and have been a proud Michigan fan of the winningist college football program in the Nation since the late 70's. I grew up an avid Michigan fan and never experienced a losing season until the Rich Rod years of 2008 through 2010 when Michigan went 3-9 worst season ever with the most losses, 5-7 second losing season since 1967 and 7-6 in 2010. Suffice it to say as a Michigan fan, I am not used to losing seasons or missing a bowl game.
  
  Thankfully, that era is over and a true Michigan man is in charge and that man is Brady Hoke. I don't begrudge anyone of being a fan of any school even moo u. I even like the rivalries and I am glad not everyone is a Michigan fan. I never once said msu sucks as you stated, I simply said msu will always be Michigan's little brother in football and always have a losing record in the series. Hold your head up high Michelle after Michigan beats msu on Oct 20th. There is absolutely no shame in losing to the winningist college football program of ALL TIME! Just get used to Michigan beating msu in football about 72% of the time. Good day.
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  Bob Morrissey · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  So, Bob......of what value, exactly, is this 'guarantee' Can we get a free small fries from you when the streak goes to 5? Are you going to be able to square that with your boss?
  
  I'm asking, of course, because you keep saying 'guarantee' as though you have something to do with it, or you're going to back this with something tangible. As you don't, and you won't, the phrase you are looking for is " in my highly biased opinion".
  
  Oh, and keep beating the drum about all those epic wins from before the First World War. They're about as relevant to the game this year as.....well, your highly biased opinion.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  Yea Bob, my guarantee has about as much weight as your statement of 5 straight. But Yes, I guarantee a Michigan victory over msu on Oct 20th. Nice little joke about me serving you free fries. Ha ha, I get it. Yea Bob, everyone has an opinion and mine is based on reality and yours is based on the last 4 years like it is a mathematical certainty that sparty will win this year, NOT! Your sparties are going down Bob and your going down hard. Count on it.
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  Dave Kirkpatrick · Top commenter · Northville, Michigan
  Dear Bob,
  
  I can't be certain, but I think I may have seen you post similar (perhaps almost identical) predictions before each of the previous four MSU-UM football games.
  
  If it was not you, I apologize. There are just so many UM posters who have claimed "this is the year that Sparty is going down" ... they all start to run together.
  
  Maybe I should file them along with all the posts that said Denard would win the Heisman - in 2012, and 2011, and 2010. Or even that Tate Forcier (remember him?) would win the Heisman in 2009.
  
  I think that file would also have all the posts about how Rich Rod would transform Michigan into a fast, nimble, national championship-caliber team. RichRod would be way better than that stodgy old Lloyd Carr, who only gave UM its only national championship won without wearing leather helmets (it's true!).
  
  I can add that to the articles that said Brady Hoke would run a high-discipline, no-nonsense "Michigan Man" team. Of course, since January 2012, 8 of his players have been arrested for different incidents. Since that is almost 10% of the team, and since all of them except one (Darryl Stonum) are still with the team, that says a lot about how they define "Michigan Men" to me.
  
  Either way, thanks for posting. It is fun to read the comments in these forums.
  
  Cheers.
  
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  Derek Lattimer · Owner-Operator at Self
  What Bob Morrissey said +1
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  Oh Dave, stop with the childish players arrested crap. And No I didn't guarantee a win prior to this year. I don't recall anyone saying Tate Forcier would win a Heisman trophy either. Sparty is going down Dave and I will enjoy every minute this year. Enjoy 2nd or 3rd place in the legends division Dave because you won't sniff first place.
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  Bob Morrissey · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  So......was that 'yes' or'no' on the fries?
  
  My realities are as follows: We've seen Denard, and have solved him. We bring an even better defense to this game than the ones that held him to an average of 15 points in 2 games. With 8 of 10 back on the Oline, we'll be able to run the ball enough to score moe than that. It'll be far enough nto the season that our passing game will produce solid if unspectacular results.
  
  Your "realities" boil down to a Michigan ?Man coaching, and the series results from the 70's. I'm paraphrasing there, because other than your 'guarantee'--which is idiotic, for the reasons stated above--you really haven't provided any reasons that aren't soaked in Blue KoolAid.
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  LeRoy Neal · Top commenter
  The last time UM beat MSU the UM team disrespected MSU on the field following the game. Mike Hart also made his famous disrespectful statement. The UM coaches did and said NOTHING. They enabled it. Jamie Samuelson wrote NOTHING about it. Now he is up in arms. Cry Jamie. Cry, cry, cry, and when you're done, take your whipping like a man, if you are able.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  Disrespected Leroy? What did Mike Hart say that was disrespectful??? Mike Hart was interviewed and he simply said playing msu is like playing your little brother and YES msu will ALWAYS BE Michigan's little brother in football. Sure, little brother may win a few but BIG BROTHER aka Michigan will dominate the overall series hence the 67-32-5 record. Get ready to be dominated again Leroy because it starts on Oct 20th and YES I guarantee it.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  Didn't Dantonio ask for a moment of silence after the App St loss? So when his team lost to Michigan that year, why should they show MSU respect? MSU football hasn't done anything to earn respect on the field since the 1960's.
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  Scott Long · Top commenter
  Leroy, you have a poor memory.
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  Dave Kirkpatrick · Top commenter · Northville, Michigan
  Dear Joe Berlucchi,
  
  MSU has the best winning percentage in the Big Ten Conference in the five years since Mark Dantonio became Head Coach. Ohio State and Penn State are the next-best programs ... BEFORE you remove their forfeited games. After the forfeits, it is not even close. The next-best teams are Wisconsin and Iowa. Michigan doesn't make the list.
  
  I realize you'll want to look back farther than the past five seasons, and I am OK with that --- except your post stated "MSU football hasn't done anything to earn respect on the field since the 1960's". Clearly, that statement is simply factually incorrect.
  
  Perhaps you are wishing the last five seasons did not happen at all - but they did, and they are still happening today.
  
  Good luck against Air Force Saturday. Looking forward to October 20.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  Dave that is all fine and good, but they still have only gone to one Rose Bowl in the last 50 years (1987). MSU football is a solid solid program, and there is no taking away what Dantonio has done. But the fact remains that it took the perfect storm at UM (which thank God is over) for MSU to rise. It will be very hard for them to stay at the level they have played the last few years once Brady Hoke gets rolling. Good luck to you as well. Can't wait for October 20th. Hope you guys are undefeated and ranked in the Top 5 when we play.
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  Clare Jewell · Top commenter · Senior Pastor at Lakewood Park Baptist Church
  I am a huge MSU fan. I don't like the tweets, But can we get some perspective here? This is being blown way out of proportion. Let's talk about football. Enough twitter twit talk.
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  David Jewell
  GO BLUE!
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  Rick Getts
  settle this on the field and act like men representing your schools.
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  Don VanDine
  Some good points, Jamie. Obsession, however, cuts both ways. Despite recent improvements in coverage of the Spartans, we've all been witness to a near-obsession with the Wolverines from this publication and many other national media outlets that do have a tendancy to overplay Michigan and drive we Spartans a bit crazy at times. Recent expamples include the premature proclamation of parity of the two school's basketball programs when UM finally won a game after the Brian Ellerbe years, to having four straight years of aggressive September Heisman buzz around both Tate Forcier and Dennard (seems silly now, doesn't it?), last year's aggressive ESPN campaign for a BCS bowl when UM barely squeezed into eligibility, this year's tremendously overrated intial polling, etc. Meanwhile, not a word is mentioned about the classy coach who took a knee at the three yard line to run out the clock on the NCAA's giant killer, Boise State, rather than ring up another score like Urban Meyer would in a hearbeat because it would help his BCS rating. Instead, we're still talking some pretty lame Tweets instead. In short, we Spartans will likely take the chip off of our shoulder the day the Wolverines get over themselves.
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  Dave Kirkpatrick · Top commenter · Northville, Michigan
  Don VanDine - stellar post. I enjoyed reading your comments, all of which are accurate.
  
  One of my best friends moved here from Columbus (OSU grad) - and his telling observation after moving here was "I can't beleive how badly the Detroit media treats you (MSU) - it is appalling.
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  Chad Earl Atcheson · · Top commenter · 40 years old
  Seriously, the title of all articles involving the Spartan football program should read,"Nothing to Report". Despite the fact you beat Big Brother four years in a row, Sparty still has accomplished zilch, zero, nada, nothing. That's the problem. Two 11 win seasons with nothing to show. Oh yeah, a "w" against an SEC team that had the best conference schedule in which they played a bunch of cellar dweller's. And I'm sure you will also say...."Hey, they lost to Boise and we beat them". Different year and a totally different team. We seen what you did with a 9 win Alabama team in 2010.
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  Reggie Hattaway
  This article is correct, for the most part. Everyone always goes back to Mike Hart's "little brother" comment. That whole thing was started by Mark Dantoino. Yes, the Michigan State football coach who is now saying some of his players need to shut up. After Michigan's loss to Appalachian State a reporter asked for his opinion about the upset. He responded by saying that we should have a moment of silence for the Michigan football program. As if it was dead. That is why after Michigan won in East Lansing 28-24, Michigan gathered at mid-field and got on one knee for "a moment of silence". Mike Hart's little brother comment came afterward when he was asked about the comeback and crushing MSU's hopes for victory. Mike Hart was a kid acting like a kid. Dantoino was upset and then spoke up again with his pride before the fall comment. They have won the last 4 years, but his players are just doing what was done in the past.
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  Dave Durocher · Research Chemist at BASF
  Bike Hart was 22 at the time. He was an adult. MD said NOTHING before that comment, BTW. Bikey did that all on his own (adult) initiative. Nice spin/revisionist history.
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  Scott Long · Top commenter
  Dave, Mike Hart was a college kid, Mark Dantonio is the head coach at a D1 school. How often have you heard other D1 head coaches talk trash to an opposing teams player through the media?
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  Reggie Hattaway
  Dave Durocher So apparently Mark Dantonio doesn't take kindly to Mike Hart referring to his program as the little brother in the state. I don't know much, but I do know that it is HI-LARIOUS to watch a rival coach have Mike Hart get so far into his head that he feels the need to comment on it at his press conference two days after the fact.
  
  Let's just run through a little time line of sorts to provide a background to this and some other nonsense.
  
  September 17th, 2005 - Michigan State beats Notre Dame and proceeds to plant a flag at midfield in South Bend (HT for the reminder of this to MGOBLOG).
  
  September 1st, 2007 - Mark Dantonio offers to have a moment of silence for Michigan after being informed that they just lost to Appalachian State. Here's a thread at the RCMB pretty much dedicated to how awesome that quote was and ho...See more
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  Sam Hunter
  I just don't see why its ok for UM to have an "obsession" over Ohio State and not ok for MSU to do the same for their rival.. Yes Michigan is our biggest rival. Yes Ohio State is UM's biggest rival. I just feel like the media wants MSU to call the dogs off now that we are getting Sept. Heisman talk, have one of the 3 nastiest defenses in the country, and a coach who doesn't put up with anything coming out of AA. I personally thought the tweets lacked class but our players have been tweeting negative things about them since the BCS selection show last year.. Now the microscope!
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  Aaron Schurg · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  This is a total "non-story". You have 85 very young adults on scholarship and then some who are not. They have keyboards and some time on their hands. Three of them tweeted about Dennard Robinson which spawned 6 articles on Freep and Detroit News. Give me a break! It' the adults out there that need to get a grip!!!.
  
  Also, side note, I am a Spartan fan, and although Robinson wasn't that effective in the Bama' game, I love how that kid plays. He puts everything out there for his school, you've got to love that.
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  Eric Douglas · Top commenter
  Jamie, a big part of it is the media, and you're totally missing the point on those tweets. How many articles did we get about Denard Robinson versus Leveon Bell? MSU fans are sick of hearing from UM fans and the media about Denard like he's won anything other than the worst BCS game in history and the annual September Heisman. But he's the Michigan QB, so we understand, but it's fine to remind everyone how good he isn't.
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  Brian Durocher · Top commenter
  Eric the question is, WHY are MSU fans sick of hearing about Denard? That is the whole point of this article, and also why MSU fans should reflect a bit. WHO CARES how many Denard articles there are? I see the Bell articles, and I think--that's a damn good RB--and I'm a M alum. If there were 3 times the amount of Bell articles I wouldn't give a sh--. Why do you and your fellow MSU fans?
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  Scott Long · Top commenter
  Eric, you're proving Jamie's point.
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  Dave Durocher · Research Chemist at BASF
  Wow! My son is Brian Durocher. I thought it was him posting in this thread! Small world!
  
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  Chad Earl Atcheson · · Top commenter · 40 years old
  Maybe, just maybe, Sparty should focus on Sparty. Maybe then Sparty could return to a Rose Bowl, or even go to their first BCS game. Michigan doesn't care about what you say in interviews or tweets. You can't stop being Little Brother unless you stop acting like it. I have some advice......Shut your hole and know your role.
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  Ed Huddleston · Top commenter · Trenton, Michigan
  Same could be said about U of M - they are obsessed with the Spartans. Their fans are even more obsessed with the Spartans. They can't talk about their team without mentioning the Spartans. I think it's funny. I like U of M more than I like their fans. I cheer them on when they don't play MSU.
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  Chad Earl Atcheson · · Top commenter · 40 years old
  That's funny Ed. I think you may be referring to O$U. And Dave, you are the biggest Sparty slappy there is, who never reads stories about M$U, because nobody talks about them, like they do UM.
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  John Sharnetsky · Michigan State University
  Yawn. Got to keep selling copies and getting those hits, but your foot has got to be hurting after kicking this dead horse. It's time for both fans to move on. One seems petty and the other seems whiney. You pick, but it's not the way either program wants to project themselves as.
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  Danny DeRoche · Top commenter · Grajuated ferm Dook
  As a Michigan fan, I'd say this article is pretty spot on. MSU has passed us up in football. I'm one of the ones who think we'll pass em back. Spartan fans (at least Geoff) think this article is a shot at them. I'd say it's pretty accurate. I don't think Jamie's taking any shots at anyone. I think he's making some good points.
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  Bill Cari · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Maybe UM will again pass MSU, but then MSU will again pass UM...if you look at the long-term history, instead of the Bo and Lloyd years, you see that this happens quite often.
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  Bob Hirdes · Top commenter · Holland, Michigan
  No Bill, history says Michigan dominates the series aka 67-32-5. Michigan pretty much dominates every single decade as well. Ok, so you won the 50's and 60's. Michigan has won the rest, case closed.
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  J.r. Beauboeuf II · Executive Smanger at Jimmy John's
  History also shows 73% of the games were played in ann arbor. Including 41 out of 45 from 1910-1955. But hey, those are just facts don't mind those
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  Dave Durocher · Research Chemist at BASF
  Here we go: Leather helmet era; pre-WW2, nonintegrated althetic competition, era before MSU joined the conference; etc, etc.. You guys are so predictable!
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  Dave Kirkpatrick · Top commenter · Northville, Michigan
  Dear Dave Drocher,
  
  Perhaps some MSU fans bring up those "old facts" because their UM counterparts so frequently bring up self-serving numbers from that era. Either all the facts and all the results from that era are relevant, or none of them are relevant.
  
  In fact, UM has a special honor - they are the ONLY team ever completely kicked out of the Big Ten Conference for cheating. Michigan was using paid professional football players to win their games, claiming mythical "national champiosnhips" with hired thugs in 1901, 1902, 1903 and 1904. The Western Conference (the Big Ten's predecessor) had enough ... in 1906, they delivered an ultimatum to Fielding Yost, UM's combative and rascist head coach. Stop the use of pros - or you are out of the Conference.
  
  UM and Yost refused, and Michigan was kicked out of the Big Ten starting in 1907. They were not readmitted until 1917, after UM finally agreed to abide by Conference rules.
  
  During this cheating era, UM claimed 9 wins over Michigan Agricultural College, the predecessor of MSU. There wins should all be vacated based upon UM's cheating of the era.
  
  In fact, of the first 50 games in the MSU-UM series, 43 were played in Ann Arbor. UM refused to play a home-and-home series with MSU until the Spartans were admitted to Big Ten membership.
  
  This rivalry was fundamentally unfair for more than half of its history. Ignoring that fact is simply absurd.
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  J.r. Beauboeuf II · Executive Smanger at Jimmy John's
  oh hey speaking of old facts, how many of your 11 national championships were after WWII? oh, 10? no wonder you hate old facts mr durocher
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  Jim Tovinitti · Top commenter · Ferris State University
  Excellent article; one thing not mentioned however is that it starts at the top. Coach Dantonio's behavior at the coach's clinic when he rudely cut off Michigan coach Hecklinski didn't set much of an example
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  Dave Durocher · Research Chemist at BASF
  Yeah! The guy was doing things at that forum (recruiting, dominating the time) that others were NOT doing. "We're Michigan. We can do whatever we want." MD called your crummy behavior and your assistant for hire sent to the event walked off with his tail between his legs.
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  Dave Kirkpatrick · Top commenter · Northville, Michigan
  Dear Jim:
  
  Perhaps you might want to learn the real story behind that suppsodly rude behavior by Coach Mark Dantonio:
  
  http://thelittlebrotherblog.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/overdone-shedding-light-on-the-dantonio-interrupts-um-assistant-nonsense/
  
  http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2012/01/michigan_state_coach_mark_dant_15.html
  
  In fact, the UM Assistant Coach (Hecklinski) was absolutely wrong, and he acknowledged as much after the event.
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  Bryan Williams · · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Hey Samuelsen UM always has a better recruiting class not just the last 2 years.
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  Bill Cari · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  ...and they continue to underperform with those recruits...as they have for quite a while...
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  Jeff Lutostanski · Top commenter
  Rich-Rod set the Michigan program back and he recruited small players..Michgan also had players that either transfered (Ryan Mallet to Arkansas) or they jumped ship to the NFL when RR was named coach and Carr didnt recruit all that well in his final year...Hoke has had one recruiting class and is working on his second and a coach does not build a team with one or two recruiting classes...
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  Bryan Williams · · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Even with RR his recruiting classes were still ranked higher then MSU. MSU redshirts everyone taking time to develop.
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  Dave Ahrendt · Top commenter · Ferris State University
  Enough already! Gees! Get a life Samuelsen.
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  Eric Haynes · Top commenter · Dansville High School
  Immaturity seems to have no expiration date. No age of choice. The handful of young people from both schools that have been "counseled" on this subject by Respective head coaches, do not define the Universities envolved, but simply the incorrect Mindset of a few individuals. Where an athlete should be focused, and respectful of an opponents plight, we sometimes see "trash talk". Leave these matters to those in charge of them. Media, fans, alumni.....stay out if it.
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  Mike Warner · Mt. Pleasant Senior High School
  Let's see. MSU beats Um for fourth straight time. MSU wins division. But when it comes time to pick a team for a BCS bowl, it's Michigan, not MUS chosen. No matter what MSU does, in the eyes of the nation they will always be in Michigan's shadow. No wonder Spartan fans are obsessed with Michigan. One program is respected, the other isn't.
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  Vincent Gregory · Top commenter · Ypsilanti, Michigan
  Hey Mike, you seem to leave out the fact that Sparty HAD a chance to go to a BCS game and they failed. Does the BiG TEN Championship Game ring a bell? They lost that game. If you're going to complain about it, stop leaving out facts. You would have a point if MSU had beaten Wisconsin in the Championship game and Michigan was picked instead of MSU. That's the problem with guys like you that cry about it. Just love to leave out facts.
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  Brandon Czernik · Siena Heights University
  I was just wondering why most people choose to be a fan of U of M? I especially notice many of them did not go to school there or at all. Is it because most people choose a team based on overall record? Is it because people don't pick teams that come the end of the season may not have a winning record? Just curious..
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  Timothy Allan Schacht
  Love to hate on UM athletics. Revel in their pain. Don't care what they think about MSU, except it helps me to hate on them more. Since it's all entertainment, who cares?
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  Paul J. Merlo · Project Manager at Mod Interiors, Inc.
  Is this blog an open letter to Valenti slappies?
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  Dean Johnson · Top commenter · Northern Michigan University
  Too bad. UM players would do the same.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  I don't recall anything less than 2 years ago when MSU got trounced by Bama. So no, you are wrong.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  But they haven't. So therefore, you are wrong. While you are busy searching for insulting tweets from UM folks, go take a look at Delvon Roe's Twitter. Talk about a classless punk.
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  Nathan Schloegl · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Berlucchi, you're an idiot with no sense of humor. Keep on trolling
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  They should change the headline to "Schloegl should rise above petty obsession with UM".
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  Nathan Schloegl · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Petty obsession is your obsession with an ex MSU bball player's funny tweets. Honestly I have no idea how you cannot find those funny. Obsessed son.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  I have no obsession with their tweets. I love that they did it. Pride comes before the fall. The only MSU ex player that was totally out of line was Delvon Roe who made jokes about the situation at PSU. Nice duck face btw.
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  Nathan Schloegl · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  You are obsessed with the tweets. Roe's jokes were funny, you just have no sense of humor.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  You would think child abuse jokes are funny. No surprise there. Read this article (if you can read) written by a Spartan. Thank goodness they aren't all as insane as you.
  http://www.theonlycolors.com/2012/9/4/3291627/tweetle-dumb-msu-players-tweets-denard-robinson
  
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  Nathan Schloegl · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  You're such a troll. Roe never tweeted anything like that. You can't provide any proof, you just spout things off at the mouth without backing it up with a link. Go away walmart wolverine.
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  Nathan Schloegl · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  It is pretty funny that you spout the old "if you can't read go to state" line, yet you went to some college that no one has ever heard of. Troll away berluchi.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  "Michigan is getting raped right now. Jerry Sandusky must be proud. #Rolltide." Try Google, tool. It's this great feature that lets you search things and find them on the internet.
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  Nathan Schloegl · Top commenter · Michigan State University
  Still nothing comes up, like I said troll away berlichi troll away.
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  Joe Berlucchi · Top commenter · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  Maybe your duckface lips are getting in the way of you being able to read the screen. It is referenced in the article above written by "the only colors".
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  Scott Long · Top commenter
  Nathan, are you really calling someone out for making stuff up and not having a link to back it up? People are still waiting for a link to the comments you accuse Gardner of making. You know, those comments you said he made on twitter?
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