BIG TEN CHAMPIONS EDITION
Our weekly feature on MSU Football brings diverse responses to
a variety of questions related to the Spartans program.
Our weekly feature on MSU Football brings diverse responses to
a variety of questions related to the Spartans program.
Front-Burner will be published in three parts between now and the Rose Bowl:
1. B1G Championship Game Discussion
2. MSU 2013 Season Discussion
3. Rose Bowl and Beyond Discussion
1. B1G Championship Game Discussion
2. MSU 2013 Season Discussion
3. Rose Bowl and Beyond Discussion
Panelists:
ATownAndDown (Follow A-Town on M-Live)
SpartanMan82 (See SM82s posts)
MSUSpartan76 (Follow '76 on M-Live)
Part 1 Discussion Questions (Please send additional questions in COMMENTS below the post.)
1. Wow, how about the REFS in that championship game? They seemed to control the game without distorting the process, making every correct call and non-call without controversy. Many fans were concerned about Buckeye bias in the interest of the Big Ten. Did the strong chorus of concerns preempt an orchestrated officiating bias? What do you think of the Big Ten officiating to Jim Delany tie-in theories?
2. And what was that smirky "thank-you" by Delany to the losing team on the championship podium? It seemed a little bit jammed-in, and it seemed to preempt Dantonio from mentioning them on his own. Does Jim Delany really eat Buckeye Nuts for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Does he even realize why he was being booed? How do you think it happened that the confetti used in the celebration was blue and yellow?
3. Okay, enough about Delany. How cool was it to be up by 17 in the first half? How many "chUMps" did you dUMp in your shorts while you watched Ohio STATE score 24 in a row? When Geiger kicked his second-half field-goal, were you thinking it might be the start of another 17-0 run to finish? Have you ever seen a game so clearly divided into three parts like that?
4. What about the play-calling by Michigan State? Many have had issues with play-calls throughout the season, but it seemed to work out right on Saturday night in Indy. What do you think?
5. OSU finished with relatively gaudy offensive numbers against MSU, drawing some surprising post-game criticism of the Defense, which remains rated #1 in Rush Defense, 3rd-down completion-% defense, and Total Defense, and also in the Top Five in Passing Efficiency defense, First-Down defense, and Scoring defense. What's up with that? How do you view the performance by the MSU-D in the championship game?
6. What other observations or comments do you have about the game, the meaning of MSU's win, fan/media reaction or other story lines?
Panelist Responses (Join in using the comments link at the bottom of the web version post.)
2. And what was that smirky "thank-you" by Delany to the losing team on the championship podium? It seemed a little bit jammed-in, and it seemed to preempt Dantonio from mentioning them on his own. Does Jim Delany really eat Buckeye Nuts for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Does he even realize why he was being booed? How do you think it happened that the confetti used in the celebration was blue and yellow?
3. Okay, enough about Delany. How cool was it to be up by 17 in the first half? How many "chUMps" did you dUMp in your shorts while you watched Ohio STATE score 24 in a row? When Geiger kicked his second-half field-goal, were you thinking it might be the start of another 17-0 run to finish? Have you ever seen a game so clearly divided into three parts like that?
4. What about the play-calling by Michigan State? Many have had issues with play-calls throughout the season, but it seemed to work out right on Saturday night in Indy. What do you think?
5. OSU finished with relatively gaudy offensive numbers against MSU, drawing some surprising post-game criticism of the Defense, which remains rated #1 in Rush Defense, 3rd-down completion-% defense, and Total Defense, and also in the Top Five in Passing Efficiency defense, First-Down defense, and Scoring defense. What's up with that? How do you view the performance by the MSU-D in the championship game?
6. What other observations or comments do you have about the game, the meaning of MSU's win, fan/media reaction or other story lines?
Panelist Responses (Join in using the comments link at the bottom of the web version post.)
1. Wow, how about the REFS in that championship game? They seemed to control the game without distorting the process, making every correct call and non-call without controversy. Many fans were concerned about Buckeye bias in the interest of the Big Ten. Did the strong chorus of concerns preempt an orchestrated officiating bias? What do you think of the Big Ten officiating to Jim Delany tie-in theories?
SpartanMan82 (See SM82's Post: UM Names Awards For Banquet)
We finally got a game without serious trouble from the officials, and look at the results. There have been far too many MSU football games skewed by crazy calls and/or non-calls, leaving a sour taste over a bitter loss. Not this one. The refs were clean, and the game was clean.
Delany certainly helped both Ohio STATE and Michigan by choosing not to impose penalties on the dozen or more un-penalized players who started and/or participated in the on-field fracas in Ann Arbor. But this game offered no evidence for the conspiracy theories about special favors for those two schools.
MSUSpartan76 (Follow '76 on M-Live)
SpartanMan82 (See SM82's Post: UM Names Awards For Banquet)
We finally got a game without serious trouble from the officials, and look at the results. There have been far too many MSU football games skewed by crazy calls and/or non-calls, leaving a sour taste over a bitter loss. Not this one. The refs were clean, and the game was clean.
Delany certainly helped both Ohio STATE and Michigan by choosing not to impose penalties on the dozen or more un-penalized players who started and/or participated in the on-field fracas in Ann Arbor. But this game offered no evidence for the conspiracy theories about special favors for those two schools.
MSUSpartan76 (Follow '76 on M-Live)
The officiating in the B1G Ten Championship game left a little to be desired. The number of no calls were just smidgeon higher than they should. I suspect this was due to the pendulum swinging backwards. That aside, it was balanced. MSU got away with a couple as did OSU, so they did not tilt the playing field.
I read in a fan post on MLive.com that ESPN had broached this topic and discussed the possibility of B1G Ten bias in officiating. I have not been able to verify that, but it was obliquely discussed lately on the Big Ten Network in reference to the Notre Dame game and how those questionable pass interference calls probably cost MSU a shot at the National Championship game. I believe that the discussion had its desired effect. I also believe that there was bias against MSU under instructions from Delany and it goes back at least as far as the Gholston suspension and Narduzzi "admonishment" after the UolM game in 2011.
ATownAndDown (Follow A-Town on M-Live)
I read in a fan post on MLive.com that ESPN had broached this topic and discussed the possibility of B1G Ten bias in officiating. I have not been able to verify that, but it was obliquely discussed lately on the Big Ten Network in reference to the Notre Dame game and how those questionable pass interference calls probably cost MSU a shot at the National Championship game. I believe that the discussion had its desired effect. I also believe that there was bias against MSU under instructions from Delany and it goes back at least as far as the Gholston suspension and Narduzzi "admonishment" after the UolM game in 2011.
ATownAndDown (Follow A-Town on M-Live)
The officiating wasn't bad. Really it appeared that they took a "let the players decide the outcome" approach in my opinion. There were a lot of no calls. In particular, OSU was getting away with quite a bit of grabbing in the trenches which created a lot of the gap issues we had there in the middle of the game. All in all, I thought it was pretty clean and anything that would have swayed the outcome would have been pretty obvious. I know Jim Delany is in love with the idea of the Big 2 and Little 8 (and he has been called out a few times for that) but its tough on that kind of stage to influence the outcome. Its one thing to dish out suspensions with that bias in mind and its another to have your refs clearly leaning toward one team in what will be the highest rated game of your conferences season.
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2. And what was that smirky "thank-you" by Delany to the losing team on the championship podium? It seemed a little bit jammed-in, and it seemed to preempt Dantonio from mentioning them on his own. Does Jim Delany really eat Buckeye Nuts for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Does he even realize why he was being booed? How do you think it happened that the confetti used in the celebration was blue and yellow?
2. And what was that smirky "thank-you" by Delany to the losing team on the championship podium? It seemed a little bit jammed-in, and it seemed to preempt Dantonio from mentioning them on his own. Does Jim Delany really eat Buckeye Nuts for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Does he even realize why he was being booed? How do you think it happened that the confetti used in the celebration was blue and yellow?