Re: William Gholston: Infant son a factor in decision on whether to leave Michigan State for NFL
First of all lets create a hypothetical where Gholston somehow goes at the end of the 2nd round. Vinny Curry was selected there and signed a 4 year/$3.230,000 contract. Now you are assuming that Gholston is going to be smart with his money and live fiscally responsible despite the fact that the statistics show that will likely be untrue. But let's assume that you are right for this.
That would mean that if Gholston lives for another 60 years or so, he will be supporting his family with $50,000 per year. That is about the median family income right now. Now you have to factor in that the median family is in a much lower tax bracket because they receive that income annually and not all between age 22-25. So Gholston will actually have to live below what the median family brings home. Then on top of that you have to factor in inflation. $50,000 a year in 20 years is not going to be the same as it is today.
Do you really think that Gholston can be fiscally responsible in order to live a life that is well below the average American's life style? Or do you think that it might be a good idea to have a degree after he is done?
I don't know. Maybe we should ask Andre Rison.
Re: Michigan State football still in mix for RB/WR Tyler Boyd; four-star recruit plans to visit next week
Because that is what players decide to go to school on... the guys that are going to be there when they are a true freshman. Duh.
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Re: Michigan State football still in mix for RB/WR Tyler Boyd; four-star recruit plans to visit next week
Very true but if that is the case then why not just make the decision and skip the hype-fest that these "all-star" games come with. Its one thing to say those things and its dive head first into the belly of the hype machine.
I mean the kid says that he is tired of all the hype but he is basically prefacing his decision with the notation that its not really his finally decision. "I am going to decide now so the hype will stop but Mr. Reporter its not really my decision." That would be like Dantonio telling Josh "We are going to run the same offense next year but we will adjust after the seniors and others leave."
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Re: Michigan State football still in mix for RB/WR Tyler Boyd; four-star recruit plans to visit next week
Guy is from Lawrenceville, GA... the same spot as Chris Allen was from.
Re: Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio's messages for Le'Veon Bell, William Gholston and Dion Sims
Don't be silly. First the defense is too strong and the "loss" of Gholston will be nothing more then asking the next guy to fill in. Don't forget the game which Gholston might have put himself back on the draft map, his likely replacement for next year had 2 TFL, a sack and a QB hurry... as a back up.
Sims was a crutch early in the season but non-factor in 7 of the 13 games for MSU because of injury or just being out of the flow of the game. So while he could be a huge weapon for MSU next year, its not like this years offense revolved around him.
Bell would be a big loss but with the returning weapons in addition to those that will be added to the mix (Madaris specifically) you will see a much improved passing game. Also, IF Bell leaves the backs that replace him might not have the same consistency but they will be more of a threat to go the distance as they should all have more break away speed then him.
Overall you need to remember, Bell wasn't the one that kept MSU in the running to win every game except the ND game. That was accomplished by the defense. The defense will still be great in 2013. The offense can't get much worse then it was this year. (Roushar leaving would be helpful to next year regardless of any of the players decisions)
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Re: Michigan State football still in mix for RB/WR Tyler Boyd; four-star recruit plans to visit next week
Because he gets to be one of the guys featured on the nationally broadcast game when he makes his choice. He then would get to go through the putting the hat on ceremony and his family gets to be on television with him. There were a couple of other guys that have done the same thing the last couple years.
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Re: Michigan State football still in mix for RB/WR Tyler Boyd; four-star recruit plans to visit next week
Should also be noted that this kid is visiting the same day as 13 guys that have already verbally committed to MSU including Damion Terry and Delton Williams (both from PA also). Coming in that day are two other uncommitted guys in David Dawson (should be noted that Finley will be here too) and Justin Williams, a safety from Florida that Narduzzi is going after. Also, should be pointed out that two Wisconsin commits (both committed before the coaching change) are also coming to visit that day. Marcus Ball is a potential DE/OLB that was recruited by a Wisconsin assistant that is at Tennessee now and Alec James, a DE, was recruited by one of the assistants that went with him to Ark.
Also, to add to the Gholston chatter... MSU has brought in a couple of JC DE's and is hosting Florida DE commit Antonio Riles (might be swaying since he is one of 3 DE commits to Florida and they are still pushing for 2 higher rated DE's but he is visiting Florida the week after MSU). With all these DE's coming in might mean MSU see's Gholston as leaning strongly toward the NFL.
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He did say that he was going to be able to graduate on time and I have heard he is a big fan of being at MSU. I know right now everyone is over reading into everything these guys say but for all those thinking his comments point to him leaving can't we read into the comment "I've got to talk to Coach Dantonio, make sure everything's situated with my family, and making sure I'm capable of putting myself in the best situation for me." as to meaning he wants to know about if he can make his situation at MSU work with his son (i.e. he wants to stay).
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Re: William Gholston: Infant son a factor in decision on whether to leave Michigan State for NFL
Losing that one guy that teams key on might be beneficial. Instead of using a system that you are predicting that teams are going to shift Gholston's way, Narduzzi can have a more wide open system where teams do not know who to key on. Right now, in theory, teams scheme for Gholston and then plan how to stop everyone else down the line after him. With Gholston out they are more likely to run a straight up protection scheme, which you would think Narduzzi would like to see more (attacking a scheme as opposed to trying to adjust to how they are going to try and block us).
I would love to see Gholston return because I think adding a guy like LT and the development of some of the other guys in combination with Gholston would be something special. But I think we will be fine with out him too. SpartyTime likes this.
Re: William Gholston: Infant son a factor in decision on whether to leave Michigan State for NFL
The DLine will survive without Gholston. Don't forget Health is in mix too and Drone played well on the DLine too, despite not having an offseason to work on his game in that area. Also, don't be surprised to see one of the OLB's move down to DE too. With T. Jones, Allen, Davis, Harris already in the mix adding a group of guys like Lyles, R. Bullough, Shane Jones and Jon Reschke is a lot of guys for 2 spots. One final spot to look for guys coming from is the TE spot. There are a pile of guys there that fit the prototypical size you want at DE. DE is a deep spot for us.
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Re: Opportunities there for Jeremy Langford, Nick Tompkins should Spartans' Le'Veon Bell bolt for NFL
The other point to that is Dantonio said that Hill was recruited as a return guy back when he was having issues as the punt returner. You have to wonder if they ever saw him as viable RB option in the the plays they like to run. MSU runs a lot of north-south running plays and not a lot of plays that would suit Hill's style as a small elusive back. Even Baker was 210 lbs, and Hill is only an inch shorter but weighs 20 lbs less.
Hill might look a lot different with some plays where he gets the ball in some space. While he might not have "big play" ability, Hill does seem to pick up some decent yardage as a kick returner. If you can create that kind of atmosphere on offense you might see him as more effective but that isn't what MSU does.
One final point, even in this article Dantonio indicated that Langford needs to get a little bigger and stronger. That is a guy that is already over 200 lbs. I think that just goes to type of runner that looks better in MSU's running style. Hill might be better served having either his own packages (i.e. more stretch plays, screen passes, end arounds, etc.) or bulking up about 10-15 lbs. SpartyTime and KeithKZ like this.
Re: Opportunities there for Jeremy Langford, Nick Tompkins should Spartans' Le'Veon Bell bolt for NFL
While Conroy had a rough year, he was still a pretty darn good kicker. MSU has been blessed with some solid kickers throughout its history, and Conroy was 4th in made FG's despite being 7th in attempted FG's. He was also third over all in FG% and only .5 percent behind Swenson, who no one really ever complained about. Also should be noted that Conroy was 6-9 from 50+ and missed one XP in his career while Swenson was 3-10 from 50+ and missed 2 XP's.
I think there will be a lot of RB by committee next year. While there are similarities among the backs, there are slight differences that might translate into being the hot hand in a particular game. Also, don't underestimate the importance of being able to pass block and catch the ball too. MSU face 226 third and fourth down situations. Being able to earn that "third down back" role will get you lots of reps.
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Re: Opportunities there for Jeremy Langford, Nick Tompkins should Spartans' Le'Veon Bell bolt for NFL
Let's start off with the obligatory "It's not official until its official." I would not be surprised at all about Bell leaving but for a program that is pretty tight lipped about inhouse things letting it slip that Bell was planning on meeting with agents to a guy that makes his living making these draft predictions (look at his twitter feed and every post is about who is leaving) seems odd. Not saying its wrong or bad info... just seems out of the ordinary.
With that said... we will still play football next year without LeVeon Bell. The running game will look a lot different but that is not a bad thing. This year the team ran the ball 492 times for 1942 yards and 13 TD's. In 2009, Ringer was gone and Andre Anderson (who rushed for less then a 100 yards in 2008) would transfer the next year, meaning MSU's top returning rushers were BJ Cunningham and Keshawn Martin. Yet MSU still rushed 419 times for 1779 yards and 16 TD's.
MSU might not have a 240 lbs RB that is still athletic enough to hurdle defenders, catch passes, spin, and pass block. But with Langford and Tompkins there will be a homerun threat in the backfield. And don't under estimate Nick Hill, who was a square peg in a round hole coming in as a back up this year as it appeared that MSU tried to run the same plays they had for Bell with him in.
The success of the running game next year won't be based on the running backs but rather the OLine coming back stronger, healthier and improved. If those big uglies up front can create some light, there will be opportunities to be had. Also, as we saw in the bowl game, don't think that a more mobile QB will open up spots for the RB's too.
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Re: Brandan Kearney transferring from Michigan State, leaving Spartans surprised, without emerging guard
Izzo has only had 4 true transfers in his career before this. Doug Davis transferred because he was Cleaves' backup. Brandon Cotton and Maurice Joseph transferred because they saw themselves as different roles then Izzo did. Gerrick Sherman was the most recent and he transferred because Nix and Payne passed him on the depth chart.
Tom Herzog was a graduate transfer who just wanted a chance to play. Lucious and Allen were kicked off the team. And Dwaun Anderson never even made it through summer workouts (or enrolled at MSU) and he transferred to be closer to family. So those 4 can hardly be counted.
Also, none of these guys got the minutes that Kearney did which makes this decision unprecedented.
Re: Brandan Kearney transferring from Michigan State, leaving Spartans surprised, without emerging guard
Ummm... you were the one that came on here an posted "lol" and you want to talk about classless? I guess I fail to see the humor in this story. But hey, all you were doing is not "here glorifying something Michigan State" with that one and I am just resisting and giving "blank comments about" you being a hater.
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Being a tax guy, I’d add that he would have to pay at least 40% of his income in Federal and state income taxes (since at 800k per year he would be in the highest tax brackets). So that would bring his number down to 30k per year (50k less 20k in taxes), again assuming that he is smart with his money.
ReplyDeleteAnd the player (or his agent) would argue that Gholston would be a good enough pro to get a second four year contract (maybe at more than 800k), which could more than double his available money (from the 30k in my example above to 60k). That assumes that a) he is a good pro, b) that he is healthy, and c) that he is smart with his money.
To me, I would tend to think the allure of making more money (more than 800k per year) being a first round pick is a better argument to stay than a degree – unless he is doing well in classes in a major in which he could have future employment after his playing career.
I think A Town was responding to a guy who said if he leaves, he is set for life. A Town was just pointing out that it's not quite so simple.
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