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Sunday, July 10, 2011

The Big Play and Impact on Wins/Loses

I've been using this website to check articles (links to all Spartan media stories in the footer at the bottom of the page). This one reminded me of a Spartan friend named Mark - he's a stats/math guy. I found this post at
"The Only Colors" Blog (again, links at the bottom)


Football Stats I Like- Net Big Plays



Like just about everyone else, I love big plays and I hate big plays. Specifically, I love big plays when my team is making them, and I hate them when my team is giving them up. As it turns out, it seems like victories also have a similar love-hate relationship with the big play. In a close game, little helps more than one of these big turn of events to get some momentum back. And when your team is trying to dig out of a hole, a big play given up can break your team's back. As such, I wanted to take a look and see just how important the 'Big Play' was to a team's success (measured in wins).
This was done by adding up all of a team's offensive running plays of 20+ yards (about 4-5 times the average carry) and all of their offensive passing plays of 30+ yards (about 3-4 times the average pass), and the same plays given up by the same team's defensive unit (the reason that the running plays are 4-5 times, and passing plays are only 3-4 times, is an attempt to adjust for a discrepancy in attempts. Big Ten teams in 2010 ran the ball essentially 4 times for every 3 passes).
Next added in were all of a team's made and surrendered punt returns of 30+ yards and kick off returns of 50+ yards. Then added in were all of a team's fumbles and interceptions, gained and lost. Then added were any defensive or return touchdowns scored or given up. Finally, any blocked kicks or punts, and any long field goals of 50+ yards made or conceded.
So for each column: [(Runs of 20+) + (Passes of 30+) + (PRs of 30+) + (KRs of 50+) + (Fumbles) + (INTs) + (return TDs) + (Def. TDs) + (Blkd Kicks) + (50+ FGs)
Then, Big Plays given up were simply subtracted from Big Plays made in order to provide a team's net score. Like so:



2010 Net Big Plays
TeamMadeGiven UpNetWins
Ohio State82433912*
Iowa6333308
Illinois7548277
Wisconsin70432711
Michigan State65442111
Penn St.535127
Purdue504914
Michigan7275-37
Northwestern5967-87
Minnesota4972-233
Indiana3566-315

*Well, you know, technically...

Further analysis, and the full tables, after the jump.
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Full Made Table:

2010 Big Plays Made
TeamRuns and Passes50+ yd FgsBlocksReturn TDsDefensive TDs30+ yd PR50+ yd KRInterceptionsFumblesTotalWins
Ohio State3903441119118212
Illinois392403001116757
Michigan49010111127727
Wisconsin3104151314117011
Michigan State351210201776511
Iowa29022411195638
Northwestern26041321157597
Penn St.31012011107537
Purdue231202011011504
Minnesota26000112118493
Indiana1802010185355
Full Given Up Table:

2010 Big Plays Given Up
TeamRuns and Passes50+ yd FGsBlocksReturn TDsDefensive TDs30+ yd PR50+ yd KRInterceptionsFumblesTotalWins
Iowa1503110265338
Ohio State141441131324312
Wisconsin26003113634311
Michigan State201102011094411
Illinois24100112127487
Purdue150202121710494
Penn St.21111510174517
Indiana34041304128665
Northwestern380401011013677
Minnesota4303322298723
Michigan410211011514757
Further thoughts:
- It's clearly not enough to just have half the big play equation. 2010 Michigan was ridiculously explosive on offense, but even more combustible on defense and special teams. 2010 Purdue was extremely stingy at giving up the big play, but its offense and special teams were only slightly better at making them on the other side of the ball.
-Ohio State is about where you'd you expect to see the conference's elite team (of cheaters), but man, hats off to Illinois on tying for third in net during a season where they went 7-6. Thankfully, a. we probably don't have to play them this season, and b. they lost Liuget, Wilson, and Leshoure among others.
-File this one as another entry into the 'Iowa was probably the second best team in the Big Ten last year, statistically speaking.' folder. Losses to OSU and Wisconsin are totally understandable. The devastating time-zone death trap of traveling to Arizona can excuse that loss. But how that team lost to jNorthwestern and Minnesota (Minnesota!), I'll never know. The mysteries of college football...
- Like all stats, this one isn't perfect, but it still tells a pretty good story. Over a quarter (12 out of 47, or 25.53%) of MSU's 2010 offensive touchdowns could be categorized as 'Big Play Touchdowns'. In other words, Michigan State's offense was explosive enough to score a fourth of the time, without even having to enter the red zone. Furthermore, out of MSU's total offensive big plays, over a third (12 out of 35, or 34.29%) went for touchdowns, making the big play a good payoff from a probability perspective.

 -On the other side of the ball, only a fifth (7 out of 35, or 20%) of MSU's defensive touchdowns were of the big play variety. This meant teams facing the Spartans mostly had to work to get their points. However, when the defense did break, it often broke big, giving up a touchdown on a big play over a third of the time as well (7 out of 20, or 35%).

- MSU was also a healthy +5 in turnover margin. The only thing holding them back from teams like Wisconsin and Illinois, curiously, for a team with players like Martin, Bates, Conroy, Worthy, Jones, Adams, and Rucker, were various big defensive and special teams plays.

-Finally, all of the top six teams in net big plays finished above .500 overall, and all six finished .500 or better in the B1G. Meanwhile, only two of the bottom five in net finished above .500 overall, and none of those five finished above .500 in the B1G.
Statistical correlation between wins and net big plays is a very healthy .794 for the 2010 season (for the record, that's a better correlation of 'stat-to-wins' than 2007-2010 correlations on total offense, total defense, scoring offense, or scoring defense. Meaning this stat would've been more likely to correlate to a winning team than any of the 'Big Four' of college football stats. I'd be curious to see if that held up if we stretched the Big Play data out to four years as well)

So, I know: small sample size, somewhat arbitrary cut-off points for what is, and isn't, a 'Big Play', and all that. But there's a good argument to be made that effectiveness at making, and stopping, the 'Big Play' (at least as it's defined here) usually leads to wins in the Big Ten. Here's to thirty yards and a cloud of fireworks.

[Author's Note: This stat is one that I enjoy quite a bit, but, as it is listed here, it's a little more flawed than I'd ultimately like. Unfortunately, to get a more accurate sampling and net would require going through 11 team's 12-13 game play-by-play logs for last season. And I- I just can't do that right now.Still, there's certainly something to chew on here.
For the record, the missing adjustments would be adding in safeties,  and (the bigger adjustment) shifting long passes from 30+ yards to 35+ yards. I also would've appreciated more years of data, for a better sample size. As it is, I worked with what cfbstats , NCAA's stat websiteand ESPN gave me. This is something I'm likely going to be tracking, hopefully with these adjustments added in, when the 2011 season rolls about.)

AND

(A call for technical help: Is the simplest way to insert a scatter plot graph into one of these posts to just host the graph to a image hosting website and use the image URL importer tool? Or can I somehow insert it in through the HTML view? For some reason, the interface won't let me copy and paste the graph directly from my excel program. Thanks!)

Thanks for reading. Additional thanks goes to Cold Hard Football Facts and their Big Play Index for the inspiration.

-Heck Dorland

Thursday, July 7, 2011

State of chUMps and Spartans Football Programs (From Mlive.com)

From the Comments: Readers discuss the state of the Michigan State and Michigan football programs
Published: Thursday, July 07, 2011, 6:27 PM Updated: Thursday, July 07, 2011, 8:54 PM
By Cory Butzin | The Bay City Times



[PHOTO]
Michigan State's Trenton Robinson tries to pump up fans during a game. The former Bay City Central standout wasn't highly recruited coming out of high school, but has become a big-time playmaker for the Spartans.

BAY CITY — The 2010 season was one to remember for the Michigan State football team.
The Spartans won a school record 11 games, while capturing a share of their first Big Ten championship since 1990 and moving on to a New Year's Day bowl where MSU ran into the Alabama Crimson Tide and 2009 Heisman Trophy winning running back Mark Ingram.
Trenton Robinson was a key cog to the Spartans resurgence.
The Bay City native started at safety for the Spartans and earned second team all-Big Ten honors while tying for the league lead with four interceptions.
Robinson tallied a career-high 69 tackles last year, while finishing second in the Big Ten with 12 passes defended and eight pass break-ups.
The former Bay City Central standout has blossomed into a standout defender for the Spartans, despite not being highly recruited coming out of high school.
Some Spartans fans have expressed worry over the current recruiting success of arch-rival Michigan, while others looked to players like Robinson and Jerel Worthy as examples of the strength of Michigan State’s coaching staff being the determining factor rather than recruiting rankings.
In typical Michigan State/Michigan rivalry fashion, readers have had differing opinions of the state of the two big football programs in the state.
Mlive.com user 18sparty doesn't seem to mind how Michigan State's recruits are ranked, so long as the results on the field stay the same:
"michigan has technically been beating msu in recruiting for 3 or 4 years, dantonio has the eye to catch diamonds in the ruff. greg Jones was a 3 star recruit coming out of high school and he turned into one of the best linebackers in the country. Four and five star recruits would be nice to have but it is nice to beat michigan when they continually say that their recruits are better and its a matter of time before msu looses to them again."
Meanwhile, wolves1997 thinks the Spartans should enjoy any success they can get for it will be brief.

"You Spartan fans are funny. You go 11-1 and get the Rose Bowl taken away by those cheats in Ohio and all you worry about is Michigan... You may win this year or you may not but after this year you may be lucky to win 3 of the next 10. Face it your so called Fat boy is out recruiting MD by a wide margin,,, You do realize how lucky you were in games. ND, Purdue, Wisconsin, Northwestern PSU come to mind. All could have gone against MSU and you guys know it. Funny how Cousins was throttled at Iowa.. Good luck on your season.. If MSU wants to go all the way you better do it this year."

And ATownAndDown thinks Michigan State is legitimate and here to stay, while feeling Michigan has a few things to iron out before fans can critique other programs.

"First I would like to say how rediculious the U of M fans sound on here. You come and troll the MSU articles and message boards and MSU fans are the ones that are worried?

Second, Dantonio has shown over the years he recruits like Izzo. Not necessarily looking for diamonds in the rough but rather recruiting guys that fit his system. Further along these lines, recruiting grades are usually wrong. Guys on high school teams are usually playing in a system or in a position they are not going to excell at in college. TJ Duckett played quarterback in HS. Desmond Morgan (U of M recruit last year) played QB in high school they have him slotted as an ILB. The stories of a guy playing one position in high school and another in college are a dime a dozen. There is a reason why these guys are moved around. So how do you grade a guy that played QB but is going to be a RB or a DB? Also, if you actually believe that rivals, scouts.com or ESPN is sending their people out to watch every recruit play you are mistaken and dillusional. There are hundreds of games in Michigan every friday night in the fall with 50 to 100 guys playing in them all. Do the math on that. Do you think they miss the boat on one here and there?

Finally to the "getting lucky" last season comments. Isnt that a part of football? Getting the ball to bounce your way every now and then. I have to agree with spartyalum about the Wisconsin game. That was one MSU controlled. As for ND and NW, can't it be said that MSU made there own luck in those games. PSU was a let down the strech and MSU hung on to win (thats not really luck but a team having a mental lapse and coasting after controlling for 3 quarters. You can probably argue that good teams can make a mistake like this and still win as MSU did). As far as the Purdue game I don't remember how MSU got lucky in it or rather Cousins picked up the team for a come from behind win. I guess if comeback wins are all luck, Joe Montana had a pretty damn nice career on luck alone.

I guess the overall point is U of M fans go to your own boards and talk about how Brady is going to wave his magic wand and magically change your defense from one of the worst in the nation back into a "Michigan Defense". Maybe you will get "lucky" this year and actually be competitive against the top of the Big 10 and not just beat Indiana and Purdue."


At last count there were 57 comments about the state of football between Michigan and Michigan State.

What are your thoughts?

Tuesday, July 5, 2011

First reader comments and followers registered

Congratulations SD (SpartanDan) for being the first EVER reader to post comments at dUMp the chUMps - Spartan Resource (see under the two video Blog entries to read SD's comments). Right now - your comments register as "anonymous". Really? Not anymore dude - I have ratted you out. Thanks SD! Next time register your screen name so it displays out after you comment. Also, if you wouldn't mind signing up as a follower and for automatic post alerts, we would appreciate it - no spam. It's just us!

Also thanks to Dougie (Jr.) and Bogdan for becoming the first EVER followers of dUMp the chUmps Spartan Resource! Charlie thought he was the first, but his name ain't there. We will recognize you guys again when we hit 100 and the 1000 mark. Who else will be a single digit follower?

On to the Spartans - in the ESPN Big Ten Blog (links below - updated as new Spartan Headlines are posted on the web), they rank the Spartans 6th for 2011 line-backing corps. Check back at the end of the year and it will be a different story, provided we have to publish too many injury posts!

Also in the links at the bottom of the page, you will find that Jolly Green Giants and Spartan Nation have previewed the Spartans and a few other Big 10 teams. Check it out. Check the links daily for updates.